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	<title>Comments on: For the love of scali bread&#8230;</title>
	<link>http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2008/03/26/for-the-love-of-scali-bread/</link>
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		<title>By: Inez</title>
		<link>http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2008/03/26/for-the-love-of-scali-bread/#comment-23280</link>
		<dc:creator>Inez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2008/03/26/for-the-love-of-scali-bread/#comment-23280</guid>
		<description>I have my first loaf of Scali in the oven now.  The proportions of the starter are exactly the same as others I have made.  My problem was I did not use instant yeast and forgot to proof it.  Problem solved.  I proofed a little more in some water and added it along with a little more flour.  I adjusted the amounts of flour and water in the recipe - I can't wait until it comes out.  Yum yum

&lt;strong&gt;I'm sure it'll be just fine, Inez- yeast is VERY forgiving, no matter what kind you use. We prefer instant because it's just so darned convenient and inexpensive, but active dry was a standby for years. Thanks for connecting here- PJH&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have my first loaf of Scali in the oven now.  The proportions of the starter are exactly the same as others I have made.  My problem was I did not use instant yeast and forgot to proof it.  Problem solved.  I proofed a little more in some water and added it along with a little more flour.  I adjusted the amounts of flour and water in the recipe - I can&#8217;t wait until it comes out.  Yum yum</p>
<p><strong>I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;ll be just fine, Inez- yeast is VERY forgiving, no matter what kind you use. We prefer instant because it&#8217;s just so darned convenient and inexpensive, but active dry was a standby for years. Thanks for connecting here- PJH</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
		<link>http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2008/03/26/for-the-love-of-scali-bread/#comment-19712</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 01:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2008/03/26/for-the-love-of-scali-bread/#comment-19712</guid>
		<description>I grew up eating Scali bread as our staple bread - used for toast with breakfast, used for sandwiches for lunch and ALWAYS with dinner to clean your plate with.  I was excited to see a recipe and try it myself.  As an amateur bread maker I was hesitant but I went for it and was so happy I did.  The bread came out beautifully!  I cut a few slices while it was still warm and brought to my parents to try (and in true Italian fashion - think of the Burrones and Everybody Loves Raymond - I only had to walk across the street).
They enjoyed it just as much as I did.  I love my Italian heritage was happy to be able to pay homage to it by making this myself instead of buying it at the grocery store.  Thank you for the great recipe and clear instructions.  I enjoyed the experience of making the bread just as much as eating it!

&lt;strong&gt;Wonderful, Andrea - thanks for your report. I'm glad the scali turned out well for you. Next up: &lt;a href="http://www.kingarthurflour.com/recipes/italian-easter-pie-recipe" rel="nofollow"&gt;Easter Pie.&lt;/a&gt; And &lt;a href="http://www.kingarthurflour.com/recipes/zeppole-recipe" rel="nofollow"&gt;zeppole&lt;/a&gt;! PJH&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up eating Scali bread as our staple bread - used for toast with breakfast, used for sandwiches for lunch and ALWAYS with dinner to clean your plate with.  I was excited to see a recipe and try it myself.  As an amateur bread maker I was hesitant but I went for it and was so happy I did.  The bread came out beautifully!  I cut a few slices while it was still warm and brought to my parents to try (and in true Italian fashion - think of the Burrones and Everybody Loves Raymond - I only had to walk across the street).<br />
They enjoyed it just as much as I did.  I love my Italian heritage was happy to be able to pay homage to it by making this myself instead of buying it at the grocery store.  Thank you for the great recipe and clear instructions.  I enjoyed the experience of making the bread just as much as eating it!</p>
<p><strong>Wonderful, Andrea - thanks for your report. I&#8217;m glad the scali turned out well for you. Next up: <a href="http://www.kingarthurflour.com/recipes/italian-easter-pie-recipe" rel="nofollow">Easter Pie.</a> And <a href="http://www.kingarthurflour.com/recipes/zeppole-recipe" rel="nofollow">zeppole</a>! PJH</strong></p>
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		<title>By: wendy</title>
		<link>http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2008/03/26/for-the-love-of-scali-bread/#comment-19466</link>
		<dc:creator>wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 19:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2008/03/26/for-the-love-of-scali-bread/#comment-19466</guid>
		<description>What is the difference between "rapid rising" yeast, and "instant" yeast? I used "rapid rising" in the recipe for Scali as my market does not carry packets/ jars of yeast marked "instant". I am still waiting out the last rising before baking the bread, but so far  the process seems to be going as per instructions, though the starter was dry-ish and not as pictured in the photo. Will post again once bread has been baked. This is my first try at yeast bread, but if I want Scali, I must resort to making my own; it is non existent in upstate NY, and I am a native of suburban Boston who really loves her Scali!! :)
&lt;strong&gt;We don't recommend Rapid Rise yeast as it uses all its energy good rise and doesn't leave much for the second, which doesn't give you that delicious taste. Molly @ KAF&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the difference between &#8220;rapid rising&#8221; yeast, and &#8220;instant&#8221; yeast? I used &#8220;rapid rising&#8221; in the recipe for Scali as my market does not carry packets/ jars of yeast marked &#8220;instant&#8221;. I am still waiting out the last rising before baking the bread, but so far  the process seems to be going as per instructions, though the starter was dry-ish and not as pictured in the photo. Will post again once bread has been baked. This is my first try at yeast bread, but if I want Scali, I must resort to making my own; it is non existent in upstate NY, and I am a native of suburban Boston who really loves her Scali!! <img src='http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
<strong>We don&#8217;t recommend Rapid Rise yeast as it uses all its energy good rise and doesn&#8217;t leave much for the second, which doesn&#8217;t give you that delicious taste. Molly @ KAF</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Carissa</title>
		<link>http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2008/03/26/for-the-love-of-scali-bread/#comment-15762</link>
		<dc:creator>Carissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2008/03/26/for-the-love-of-scali-bread/#comment-15762</guid>
		<description>This bread is fantastic.  It is good with everything.  I am still working on getting it to stay looking pretty as I move from my work surface to the bread stone.  Any hints?

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.kingarthurflour.com/shop/items/parchment-paper-half-sheet" rel="nofollow"&gt;Parchment&lt;/a&gt;. Shape right on parchment, pick up loaf/parchment with a big peel (or slide onto the back of a cookie sheet), and slide right onto the stone. No sticking, no pulling out of shape. Give it a try, Carissa -  PJH&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This bread is fantastic.  It is good with everything.  I am still working on getting it to stay looking pretty as I move from my work surface to the bread stone.  Any hints?</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.kingarthurflour.com/shop/items/parchment-paper-half-sheet" rel="nofollow">Parchment</a>. Shape right on parchment, pick up loaf/parchment with a big peel (or slide onto the back of a cookie sheet), and slide right onto the stone. No sticking, no pulling out of shape. Give it a try, Carissa -  PJH</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2008/03/26/for-the-love-of-scali-bread/#comment-10192</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2008/03/26/for-the-love-of-scali-bread/#comment-10192</guid>
		<description>hi PJ,   just wanted you to know that i have tried your scali bread and it came out looking just like it should only i didn't get the rise i was hoping for and the flavor and texture wasn't the same as i get at the bakery.  any ideas why?  my starter was dry with a crust on it like others have said but it still mixed fine and made a good dough.  what can i di to get it to rise more and be more airy and not so dense?  thanks for any advise, i love scali and live in maine and just can't find it here so i was excited to make it.

&lt;strong&gt;You might want to begin by checking your yeast, if your dough is not rising.  There may be several differences between this recipe and you local bakery's.  These would account for a different flavor and texture.  Frank from KAF&#62;&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi PJ,   just wanted you to know that i have tried your scali bread and it came out looking just like it should only i didn&#8217;t get the rise i was hoping for and the flavor and texture wasn&#8217;t the same as i get at the bakery.  any ideas why?  my starter was dry with a crust on it like others have said but it still mixed fine and made a good dough.  what can i di to get it to rise more and be more airy and not so dense?  thanks for any advise, i love scali and live in maine and just can&#8217;t find it here so i was excited to make it.</p>
<p><strong>You might want to begin by checking your yeast, if your dough is not rising.  There may be several differences between this recipe and you local bakery&#8217;s.  These would account for a different flavor and texture.  Frank from KAF&gt;</strong></p>
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		<title>By: maxine</title>
		<link>http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2008/03/26/for-the-love-of-scali-bread/#comment-8986</link>
		<dc:creator>maxine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 03:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2008/03/26/for-the-love-of-scali-bread/#comment-8986</guid>
		<description>Hi PJH,

You are right about the chewy texture, but I like to crisp this up by wetting the outside and reheating in a hot oven until crisp or grilling the outside of the roll in a heavy skillet.  This is best done with a day old roll. 

After thinking about the problem I figured out a way to steam the rolls without using an steamer machine.  None of my vegetable steaming equipment would allow room for the rolls so I found a round cake cooling rack that just fit in my 12 inch heavy stainless steel skillet. I can fit 4 rolls on it.

I Made up another recipe of scali dough and wrapped better cheddar dogs with rounds of dough.  I glazed them with egg white and put the "bagle dogs" on parchment paper on the rack and lowered it in the skillet and covered it the skillet, they steamed for about 8 minutes.  I moved the rack into a 400 degree oven and baked the rolls until they were medium brown.  It was so much easier than dipping in the boiling water and worked better, I think, because of the egg wash.  My husband likes a softer crust so I will do half of the rolls steamed and the other half of the recipe baked just as the original recipe suggests.

I also made some caramel nut rolls out of the recipe, they were great as well.

&lt;strong&gt;Maxine, you have some imagination going there - everything sounds wonderful! I'm going to try steaming bagels instead of boiling next time around, see what the difference is. Thanks for the hint- PJH&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi PJH,</p>
<p>You are right about the chewy texture, but I like to crisp this up by wetting the outside and reheating in a hot oven until crisp or grilling the outside of the roll in a heavy skillet.  This is best done with a day old roll. </p>
<p>After thinking about the problem I figured out a way to steam the rolls without using an steamer machine.  None of my vegetable steaming equipment would allow room for the rolls so I found a round cake cooling rack that just fit in my 12 inch heavy stainless steel skillet. I can fit 4 rolls on it.</p>
<p>I Made up another recipe of scali dough and wrapped better cheddar dogs with rounds of dough.  I glazed them with egg white and put the &#8220;bagle dogs&#8221; on parchment paper on the rack and lowered it in the skillet and covered it the skillet, they steamed for about 8 minutes.  I moved the rack into a 400 degree oven and baked the rolls until they were medium brown.  It was so much easier than dipping in the boiling water and worked better, I think, because of the egg wash.  My husband likes a softer crust so I will do half of the rolls steamed and the other half of the recipe baked just as the original recipe suggests.</p>
<p>I also made some caramel nut rolls out of the recipe, they were great as well.</p>
<p><strong>Maxine, you have some imagination going there - everything sounds wonderful! I&#8217;m going to try steaming bagels instead of boiling next time around, see what the difference is. Thanks for the hint- PJH</strong></p>
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		<title>By: maxine</title>
		<link>http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2008/03/26/for-the-love-of-scali-bread/#comment-8936</link>
		<dc:creator>maxine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 09:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2008/03/26/for-the-love-of-scali-bread/#comment-8936</guid>
		<description>I was so intrigued (sp) that I had to go right in the kitchen and mix the starter.  I added a couple of tablespoons of extra water after reading some of the comments.  I had nice bubbles in the starter to greet me today when I checked the bowl.  It was about 10 hours when I started my dough.  I added about a tablespoon of sugar to mine because of habit.  I made 6 rolls using the same braiding technique since I wanted as much crust as possible.
 
The rolls were magnificent with the best texture in the inside that I have ever made.  My dear husband said the rolls were the perfect  thickness for sandwiches, not too much dough in the middle.  The crust was not quite as crisp as I wished, but still very good.  I was very careful not to knead in too much flour, I used my bench scraper to keep kneading by hand before I finished off to a good medium firmness.  I normally use a food processor but I was determined to make my best effort and it really paid off.  I made a corned beef and sliced it thin to serve on the rolls. 

One thing I did differently, I put a pan of boiling water on the bottom rack hoping to get a better crust, one of the bakers at the Wal Mart said they steamed the rolls before they baked them.   Has anyone ever steamed the outside of theirsbefore baking.  That is why I used the water in the bottom of the oven.  Next time I will try my steam cleaner or clothes steamer to get a better crust texture.  

I have one recipe with smoked sausage wrapped in dough that is dipped in boiling water then in butter before baking. that does a beautiful crust.  I made that recipe up to make something similar to the bagle dogs from Schwans frozen foods.  I use the cheddar smoked sausage for the meat in the center or good kosher hot dogs.  This dough would work well in that recipe.

I already have another batch of starter mixed for tomorrow.  

Thank you so much for the recipe.  It will be with me until I can no longer bake my own bread.  I will visit this site often in the future.

&lt;strong&gt;Maxine, thanks so much for connecting here. Steam does indeed make a crisp, somewhat (minimally) shiny crust. When making artisan breads, I often put a shallow pan on the lowest rack of the oven, then add a cup of hot water at the same time I put my bread in the oven. I also usually spray the bread with water before baking. Boiling the dough (like bagels) produces more of a shiny/chewy crust than crisp, I've found. I'm interested in what would happen if you steamed bread in your clothes steamer first - report back, please! Glad you found us - PJH&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was so intrigued (sp) that I had to go right in the kitchen and mix the starter.  I added a couple of tablespoons of extra water after reading some of the comments.  I had nice bubbles in the starter to greet me today when I checked the bowl.  It was about 10 hours when I started my dough.  I added about a tablespoon of sugar to mine because of habit.  I made 6 rolls using the same braiding technique since I wanted as much crust as possible.</p>
<p>The rolls were magnificent with the best texture in the inside that I have ever made.  My dear husband said the rolls were the perfect  thickness for sandwiches, not too much dough in the middle.  The crust was not quite as crisp as I wished, but still very good.  I was very careful not to knead in too much flour, I used my bench scraper to keep kneading by hand before I finished off to a good medium firmness.  I normally use a food processor but I was determined to make my best effort and it really paid off.  I made a corned beef and sliced it thin to serve on the rolls. </p>
<p>One thing I did differently, I put a pan of boiling water on the bottom rack hoping to get a better crust, one of the bakers at the Wal Mart said they steamed the rolls before they baked them.   Has anyone ever steamed the outside of theirsbefore baking.  That is why I used the water in the bottom of the oven.  Next time I will try my steam cleaner or clothes steamer to get a better crust texture.  </p>
<p>I have one recipe with smoked sausage wrapped in dough that is dipped in boiling water then in butter before baking. that does a beautiful crust.  I made that recipe up to make something similar to the bagle dogs from Schwans frozen foods.  I use the cheddar smoked sausage for the meat in the center or good kosher hot dogs.  This dough would work well in that recipe.</p>
<p>I already have another batch of starter mixed for tomorrow.  </p>
<p>Thank you so much for the recipe.  It will be with me until I can no longer bake my own bread.  I will visit this site often in the future.</p>
<p><strong>Maxine, thanks so much for connecting here. Steam does indeed make a crisp, somewhat (minimally) shiny crust. When making artisan breads, I often put a shallow pan on the lowest rack of the oven, then add a cup of hot water at the same time I put my bread in the oven. I also usually spray the bread with water before baking. Boiling the dough (like bagels) produces more of a shiny/chewy crust than crisp, I&#8217;ve found. I&#8217;m interested in what would happen if you steamed bread in your clothes steamer first - report back, please! Glad you found us - PJH</strong></p>
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		<title>By: maxine</title>
		<link>http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2008/03/26/for-the-love-of-scali-bread/#comment-8886</link>
		<dc:creator>maxine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 08:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2008/03/26/for-the-love-of-scali-bread/#comment-8886</guid>
		<description>Thank you so much for the recipe.  I live in Arkansas and missed the good breads available in Chicago where I lived as a young married woman.  My husband is first generation Italian and I was introduced to good bread by his mother, but never had anything like the scali rolls I find at one of the Wal Mart super stores in the town across the river.  Now I can make my own to be sure I have it  to make my favorite sandwich.

I love crusty bread and make a wonderful sandwich with the scali rolls.  I slice the roll and butter the outside, then I open the roll and place it crust side out on a hot skillet and put a press on it.  After it has developed a really crisp outer layer I remove the press and add munster cheese and thin sliced roast beef and heat until the cheese is melted.  I add slices of avacodo and a tiny touch of Honey Royal french dressing.   Maybe you will like it too!

&lt;strong&gt;Oh, boy, Maxine - does that ever sound good! Now I have to go make some scali rolls... PJH&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for the recipe.  I live in Arkansas and missed the good breads available in Chicago where I lived as a young married woman.  My husband is first generation Italian and I was introduced to good bread by his mother, but never had anything like the scali rolls I find at one of the Wal Mart super stores in the town across the river.  Now I can make my own to be sure I have it  to make my favorite sandwich.</p>
<p>I love crusty bread and make a wonderful sandwich with the scali rolls.  I slice the roll and butter the outside, then I open the roll and place it crust side out on a hot skillet and put a press on it.  After it has developed a really crisp outer layer I remove the press and add munster cheese and thin sliced roast beef and heat until the cheese is melted.  I add slices of avacodo and a tiny touch of Honey Royal french dressing.   Maybe you will like it too!</p>
<p><strong>Oh, boy, Maxine - does that ever sound good! Now I have to go make some scali rolls&#8230; PJH</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Carla (Bordonaro) Owens</title>
		<link>http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2008/03/26/for-the-love-of-scali-bread/#comment-8696</link>
		<dc:creator>Carla (Bordonaro) Owens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 04:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2008/03/26/for-the-love-of-scali-bread/#comment-8696</guid>
		<description>Scali bread!  I grew up in a very traditional family in Boston and that was the only bread in our home.  If you can believe it, I used to long for the lousy white bread my non-Italian friends would bring for sandwiches to school for lunch.  I left the east coast at the age of 19 to move to CA and have not been able to find Scali bread anywhere, it is just not available out here.  I have satisfied my desire for this wonderful bread by gorging on it on my annual visits to Boston.  I am not a baker but this site has lit a fire under me, I have decided to learn to make this long time favorite!

&lt;strong&gt;Carla, hope the reality matches your memories - I'm glad we've lit the fire! - PJH&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scali bread!  I grew up in a very traditional family in Boston and that was the only bread in our home.  If you can believe it, I used to long for the lousy white bread my non-Italian friends would bring for sandwiches to school for lunch.  I left the east coast at the age of 19 to move to CA and have not been able to find Scali bread anywhere, it is just not available out here.  I have satisfied my desire for this wonderful bread by gorging on it on my annual visits to Boston.  I am not a baker but this site has lit a fire under me, I have decided to learn to make this long time favorite!</p>
<p><strong>Carla, hope the reality matches your memories - I&#8217;m glad we&#8217;ve lit the fire! - PJH</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Susan Smedile Berry</title>
		<link>http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2008/03/26/for-the-love-of-scali-bread/#comment-8438</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Smedile Berry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 23:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2008/03/26/for-the-love-of-scali-bread/#comment-8438</guid>
		<description>Dear PJ, 
Thank you so much for posting this recipe, I am going to make the starter tonight and the bread tomorrow to have with lasagna. I have to share my story with you and tell you why I am so thankful to find this recipe and your story. I grew up in MA and my Dad worked for Green Freedman bakery in Boston. When I was young we would have all the bulkie rolls and Jewish rye we wanted and my Dad and G &#38; F obliged. Once in a while Dad would surprise us with a loaf of scali from Quinzani's bakery. It was absolutely wonderful! I now live in NC and have hoped to find a recipe for scali for a long time. Can't wait to try this and Thank you again.  Susan Smedile-Berry

&lt;strong&gt;You're welcome, Susan. Glad I could help you relive some nice memories... PJH&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear PJ,<br />
Thank you so much for posting this recipe, I am going to make the starter tonight and the bread tomorrow to have with lasagna. I have to share my story with you and tell you why I am so thankful to find this recipe and your story. I grew up in MA and my Dad worked for Green Freedman bakery in Boston. When I was young we would have all the bulkie rolls and Jewish rye we wanted and my Dad and G &amp; F obliged. Once in a while Dad would surprise us with a loaf of scali from Quinzani&#8217;s bakery. It was absolutely wonderful! I now live in NC and have hoped to find a recipe for scali for a long time. Can&#8217;t wait to try this and Thank you again.  Susan Smedile-Berry</p>
<p><strong>You&#8217;re welcome, Susan. Glad I could help you relive some nice memories&#8230; PJH</strong></p>
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