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	<title>Comments on: Hot cheese bread: grip it and rip it!</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2008/03/28/hot-cheese-bread-grip-it-and-rip-it/#comment-16742</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just had a quick question.  I'm just getting into the baking bread thing and many recipes say let the dough double in size.  Now I don't have a container like you had so it's hard for me to know when it's double.  My question is what kind of container is that?  How large is that container?  Where could I get something like that?  Thanks in advance

&lt;strong&gt;Hi Dan - Welcome to the wonderful world of bread baking! The rising container I use is a big &lt;a href="http://www.kingarthurflour.com/shop/items/acrylic-measuring-cup-8-cup" rel="nofollow"&gt;(8-cup) acrylic measure&lt;/a&gt;; we sell them here, or you might find something similar at a kitchen store. Make sure you get one that's at least 8 cups. You can also use straight-sided container (food-safe, of course), and simply measure how tall the dough is when you put it in, then make a little mark on the side of where it'll be when it's doubled. Also, don't make yourself crazy with "doubled" - the idea is to have it rise significantly. It might more than double if you take your eye off it; it you're tired of waiting, and it's not quite there, fine. Bread-baking is both art and science; don't get too stuck on the science, OK? Good luck - PJH&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just had a quick question.  I&#8217;m just getting into the baking bread thing and many recipes say let the dough double in size.  Now I don&#8217;t have a container like you had so it&#8217;s hard for me to know when it&#8217;s double.  My question is what kind of container is that?  How large is that container?  Where could I get something like that?  Thanks in advance</p>
<p><strong>Hi Dan - Welcome to the wonderful world of bread baking! The rising container I use is a big <a href="http://www.kingarthurflour.com/shop/items/acrylic-measuring-cup-8-cup" rel="nofollow">(8-cup) acrylic measure</a>; we sell them here, or you might find something similar at a kitchen store. Make sure you get one that&#8217;s at least 8 cups. You can also use straight-sided container (food-safe, of course), and simply measure how tall the dough is when you put it in, then make a little mark on the side of where it&#8217;ll be when it&#8217;s doubled. Also, don&#8217;t make yourself crazy with &#8220;doubled&#8221; - the idea is to have it rise significantly. It might more than double if you take your eye off it; it you&#8217;re tired of waiting, and it&#8217;s not quite there, fine. Bread-baking is both art and science; don&#8217;t get too stuck on the science, OK? Good luck - PJH</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Donna@waymorehomemade</title>
		<link>http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2008/03/28/hot-cheese-bread-grip-it-and-rip-it/#comment-15030</link>
		<dc:creator>Donna@waymorehomemade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2008/03/28/hot-cheese-bread-grip-it-and-rip-it/#comment-15030</guid>
		<description>Oh. My. Stars. I can smell the melted cheese from all the way down here in Texas. Must. Try. This. Soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh. My. Stars. I can smell the melted cheese from all the way down here in Texas. Must. Try. This. Soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Meagan</title>
		<link>http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2008/03/28/hot-cheese-bread-grip-it-and-rip-it/#comment-10762</link>
		<dc:creator>Meagan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just made the starter and realized that it says to let it rest for 14 hours not 24 hours.  I thought 24 was long but made it anyways only to realize I was wrong.  Should I let this rise for the 14 hours then stick it in the fridge tonight until tomorrow when I am ready to start making it for dinner?  Or should I put it in the fridge now to do a really long slow rise?  Thanks.

&lt;b&gt;Meagan - Yes, put it in the fridge now and get back to it tomorrow.  Elisabeth @ KAF&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just made the starter and realized that it says to let it rest for 14 hours not 24 hours.  I thought 24 was long but made it anyways only to realize I was wrong.  Should I let this rise for the 14 hours then stick it in the fridge tonight until tomorrow when I am ready to start making it for dinner?  Or should I put it in the fridge now to do a really long slow rise?  Thanks.</p>
<p><b>Meagan - Yes, put it in the fridge now and get back to it tomorrow.  Elisabeth @ KAF</b><b></b></p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2008/03/28/hot-cheese-bread-grip-it-and-rip-it/#comment-10154</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 23:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2008/03/28/hot-cheese-bread-grip-it-and-rip-it/#comment-10154</guid>
		<description>Hi PJ- I don't make bread often. But I decided to start considering how expensive bread is. I will try your suggestions the next time I make the starter and let you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi PJ- I don&#8217;t make bread often. But I decided to start considering how expensive bread is. I will try your suggestions the next time I make the starter and let you know.</p>
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		<title>By: susan</title>
		<link>http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2008/03/28/hot-cheese-bread-grip-it-and-rip-it/#comment-9984</link>
		<dc:creator>susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 02:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2008/03/28/hot-cheese-bread-grip-it-and-rip-it/#comment-9984</guid>
		<description>I made this last weekend and had a real problem with the starter. I made the starter the night below. I brought the starter upstairs overnight to make sure that it was warm enough  (besides being the coldest weekend of the year- we keep our house cool at night- thrifty Yankee!). I felt stupid bringing the starter "to bed" with me but I wanted the starter to actually "start". The next morning the starter was a little puffy but not bubbly. I added some more water (I looked at the comments) and by 3:00 I was able to continue with the recipe. The starter never got bubbly like the picture. Do you think that the starter didn't work because of the cold/dry weather? The bread came out good but I just wish I knew why the starter didn't develop. I have never used a starter before. The yeast was fresh and I did keep it covered.  Great bread but can be a little tricky.

&lt;strong&gt;Hi Susan - This is indeed a very dry starter, and one that has a more challenging time rising.  did you use instant yeast? Next time, try leaving the salt out (adding salt is  unusual for starters), cutting the yeast back to 1/4 teaspoon, and cutting the flour back to 1 cup (add that extra 1/4 cup the next day). I think you'll have more success. If you don't bake bread often (maybe you don't?), there's not a lot of ambient yeast floating around to help the starter, and these steps should help. Good luck - PJH&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I made this last weekend and had a real problem with the starter. I made the starter the night below. I brought the starter upstairs overnight to make sure that it was warm enough  (besides being the coldest weekend of the year- we keep our house cool at night- thrifty Yankee!). I felt stupid bringing the starter &#8220;to bed&#8221; with me but I wanted the starter to actually &#8220;start&#8221;. The next morning the starter was a little puffy but not bubbly. I added some more water (I looked at the comments) and by 3:00 I was able to continue with the recipe. The starter never got bubbly like the picture. Do you think that the starter didn&#8217;t work because of the cold/dry weather? The bread came out good but I just wish I knew why the starter didn&#8217;t develop. I have never used a starter before. The yeast was fresh and I did keep it covered.  Great bread but can be a little tricky.</p>
<p><strong>Hi Susan - This is indeed a very dry starter, and one that has a more challenging time rising.  did you use instant yeast? Next time, try leaving the salt out (adding salt is  unusual for starters), cutting the yeast back to 1/4 teaspoon, and cutting the flour back to 1 cup (add that extra 1/4 cup the next day). I think you&#8217;ll have more success. If you don&#8217;t bake bread often (maybe you don&#8217;t?), there&#8217;s not a lot of ambient yeast floating around to help the starter, and these steps should help. Good luck - PJH</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
		<link>http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2008/03/28/hot-cheese-bread-grip-it-and-rip-it/#comment-9080</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2008/03/28/hot-cheese-bread-grip-it-and-rip-it/#comment-9080</guid>
		<description>If I use sourdough starter, I assume it must be fed first? Then use a cup of fed starter with the remaining 1/4 cup of flour and 1/2 t. or more of instant yeast? (sorry, I'm new to bread baking, especially with a sourdough starter).

&lt;strong&gt;Andrea, it's good to experiment; that's how you learn. But understand if you're new to bread-baking, and changing recipes, AND using sourdough, there'll be times when the bread doesn't come out as you expect. Just learn from the experience, OK? Don't be discouraged. I can tell you that sourdough starter is basically about half flour and half liquid, tipped a bit towards the liquid side. So however much FED starter you use, leave out that much flour and liquid, in the proportions I noted, from the recipe you're following. Use the same amount of yeast. Good luck! PJH&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I use sourdough starter, I assume it must be fed first? Then use a cup of fed starter with the remaining 1/4 cup of flour and 1/2 t. or more of instant yeast? (sorry, I&#8217;m new to bread baking, especially with a sourdough starter).</p>
<p><strong>Andrea, it&#8217;s good to experiment; that&#8217;s how you learn. But understand if you&#8217;re new to bread-baking, and changing recipes, AND using sourdough, there&#8217;ll be times when the bread doesn&#8217;t come out as you expect. Just learn from the experience, OK? Don&#8217;t be discouraged. I can tell you that sourdough starter is basically about half flour and half liquid, tipped a bit towards the liquid side. So however much FED starter you use, leave out that much flour and liquid, in the proportions I noted, from the recipe you&#8217;re following. Use the same amount of yeast. Good luck! PJH</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Marcia</title>
		<link>http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2008/03/28/hot-cheese-bread-grip-it-and-rip-it/#comment-8872</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 19:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too have KA sourdough starter but how much should I use?  I have a lot of recipes that call for a starter to be made the night before.  Is there a rule of thumb I could use based on how much flour is used?  Or do I just automatically use 1 cup of starter?

I have Brie and some Cabot cheese left from the holiday.  That sounds nice and gooey.   Maybe chunk the Brie??

I tend to bake on the week end so left overs can be taken to school.

&lt;b&gt;This is how one would use their sourdough starter.  If using one 1 c. starter, take out 1 c. flour and 1/2 c. water in the recipe.  Combine with the rest of the flour and water and let rest overnight until bubbly. You may have to add a touch more yeast.  Yes, chunk the brie or soften first and spread on the dough.  Elisabeth @ KAF &lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;  &lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too have KA sourdough starter but how much should I use?  I have a lot of recipes that call for a starter to be made the night before.  Is there a rule of thumb I could use based on how much flour is used?  Or do I just automatically use 1 cup of starter?</p>
<p>I have Brie and some Cabot cheese left from the holiday.  That sounds nice and gooey.   Maybe chunk the Brie??</p>
<p>I tend to bake on the week end so left overs can be taken to school.</p>
<p><b>This is how one would use their sourdough starter.  If using one 1 c. starter, take out 1 c. flour and 1/2 c. water in the recipe.  Combine with the rest of the flour and water and let rest overnight until bubbly. You may have to add a touch more yeast.  Yes, chunk the brie or soften first and spread on the dough.  Elisabeth @ KAF </b><b>  </b></p>
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		<title>By: Mike J</title>
		<link>http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2008/03/28/hot-cheese-bread-grip-it-and-rip-it/#comment-8750</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I made this last weekend with a sourdough starter instead of the overnight commercial yeast starter, and it was sublime.  It was so good in fact that after devouring the first loaf we grabbed two of the remaining loaves and immediatly headed over to the neighbors to share.  

I think I'm going to try it this weekend with some smoked cheddar.

&lt;strong&gt;Yes, these loaves do lend themselves to all kinds of cheese, don't they? Glad you enjoyed them - PJH&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I made this last weekend with a sourdough starter instead of the overnight commercial yeast starter, and it was sublime.  It was so good in fact that after devouring the first loaf we grabbed two of the remaining loaves and immediatly headed over to the neighbors to share.  </p>
<p>I think I&#8217;m going to try it this weekend with some smoked cheddar.</p>
<p><strong>Yes, these loaves do lend themselves to all kinds of cheese, don&#8217;t they? Glad you enjoyed them - PJH</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
		<link>http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2008/03/28/hot-cheese-bread-grip-it-and-rip-it/#comment-8678</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Add my voice to the chorus of thank yous for the link to this recipe in the KA Flour online newsletter.  

This recipe was an instant addition to our list of family favorites.  I made it twice in four days:  once with smoked Gouda and a second time with Cabot's Private Stock cheddar (black wax).  The Gouda was very good but the cheddar was sublime!  I think I'll try it next with a Swiss and maybe add some diced ham.  

This is one of the stickiest doughs I've worked with in my 30+ years of  breadbaking.  By sprinkling flour on my bench knife and on my fingers I could both roll the dough into a log and cut it with a minimum of frustration.   

Gruyère-Stuffed Crusty Loaves?  No way - at our house this is known as Volcano Bread!  

A happy, healthy New Year to you all!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Add my voice to the chorus of thank yous for the link to this recipe in the KA Flour online newsletter.  </p>
<p>This recipe was an instant addition to our list of family favorites.  I made it twice in four days:  once with smoked Gouda and a second time with Cabot&#8217;s Private Stock cheddar (black wax).  The Gouda was very good but the cheddar was sublime!  I think I&#8217;ll try it next with a Swiss and maybe add some diced ham.  </p>
<p>This is one of the stickiest doughs I&#8217;ve worked with in my 30+ years of  breadbaking.  By sprinkling flour on my bench knife and on my fingers I could both roll the dough into a log and cut it with a minimum of frustration.   </p>
<p>Gruyère-Stuffed Crusty Loaves?  No way - at our house this is known as Volcano Bread!  </p>
<p>A happy, healthy New Year to you all!!</p>
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		<title>By: S. Myers</title>
		<link>http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2008/03/28/hot-cheese-bread-grip-it-and-rip-it/#comment-8592</link>
		<dc:creator>S. Myers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 00:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2008/03/28/hot-cheese-bread-grip-it-and-rip-it/#comment-8592</guid>
		<description>What a treat!  It did turn out just like the picture.  The taste and texture were incredible.  When it came out of the oven, I had to call the neighborhood (such as it is. we live OUT in the country).  Everyone shared and enjoyed the moment.  That's what it's all about!

&lt;strong&gt;So right ... baking is sharing. Thanks for carrying on the tradition! PJH&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a treat!  It did turn out just like the picture.  The taste and texture were incredible.  When it came out of the oven, I had to call the neighborhood (such as it is. we live OUT in the country).  Everyone shared and enjoyed the moment.  That&#8217;s what it&#8217;s all about!</p>
<p><strong>So right &#8230; baking is sharing. Thanks for carrying on the tradition! PJH</strong></p>
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